Why The Beastie Boys Are Not The Greatest Group Of All Time: The Black Panther Theory

Where's wu-tang maaaan!!?

I appreciate and agree with your first video on why the Beastie Boys are the greatest rap group of all time. Their consistency, longevity, ability to adapt in the face of an ever changing Hip Hop/Rap world and their efforts to maintain and spread their affection, adoration and love for Old School Hip Hop is outstanding. Their loyalty to Hip Hop and to each other is amazing. Run-DMC whom they of course owe an invaluable debt to, are way way way high on the plateau of every group that came after them. They are on a class by themselves as is the founders who came before them. Run-DMC are untouchable in my book beyond any ranking whatsoever. I feel if one is going to rank, start with everyone else after them. Yes, there are more complex and interesting groups like the ones you mention in this. However, I am still sticking with your excellent and exceptional argument for why The Beastie Boys are the greatest rap group of all time. I’d also recommend watching the Beastie’s live on stage documentary available to stream on Apple TV, where the surviving members Adrock and Mike D give for the most part, a frank, honest and entertaining assessment of their history.

I think being white had to do with a lot of the success of the beastie boys, like you said with the black panther affect. I think that had a lot to do with bringing a lot of new people into the hip hop community. But if you look at overall popularity, and consistency, nobody has the beastie boys beat.

Beasties i love! they are a million times more real hip hop than Feminem! I have all the beasties punk and rap vinyl cds, 0 cds from Slim Ans

Much respect dude. You got it right this time! I've always been down with the BEASTIE BOYS, but the fact of the matter is that they would have never existed had it not been for the influence of THE GREATEST HIP HOP GROUP OF ALL-TIME RUN DMC and JMJ! The KING AD-ROCK, even admitted that as a rap group, they were trying very hard to be like them. The sad part of this argument is that a lot of people have forgotten how important RUN DMC was to this music. I'm a 54 year old black dude from Brooklyn, and I was there in the late 1970s thru 1980s which is known as the "Golden Age of Hip Hop."Before RUN DMC came on the scene the music was known as rap. After RUN DMC was through wit the shit, IT WAS CALLED FUCKIN' HIP-HOP!

Beastie Boys can play actual instruments and not just rap

I dig how you putting all this out there. From the hip. No pulling any punches. And a fuck you if you don't like what I gotta say style ????

Sad that you have to do this bro….Beastie Boys are definitely in my top 3 bands off all time, but they'd be the first to admit they weren't better rappers than KRS or Chuck D x

So did Run DMC mentor the Beastie Boys thinking they could somehow benefit from their white privilege? Or did they recognize the skill?

2 words WU-TANG and on that note just a little quote The Wu is too slamming for these Cold Killing labels
Some ain't had hits since I seen Aunt Mabel
Be doing artists in like Cain did Abel
Now they money's gettin stuck to the gum under the table
That's what you get when you misuse what I invent
Your empire falls and you lose every cent
For trying to blow up a scrub
Now that thought was just as bright as a 20-watt light bulb
Should've pumped it when I rocked it
Niggaz so stingy they got short arms and deep pockets
This goes on in some companies
With majors they're scared to death to pump these
First of all, who's your A&R
A mountain climber who plays an electric guitar
But he don't know the meaning of dope
When he's looking for a suit and tie rap
That's cleaner than a bar of soap
And I'm the dirtiest thing in sight
Matter of fact bring out the girls and let's have a mud fight

And what I mean by sharing that is that this what at a time where labels didn’t know wtf rap really was and saying they would usually discard the real and take the cleaned up rappers

That theory does makes sense
I got "Introduced to the 90's by A Tribe Called Quest and for me they're the best Hip-hop group ever " because they introduced me to the 90s and to Digable Planets (I love them as much as I love tribe) and De La Soul

Qtip was on Ill Communication..

Love the Beastie Boys, if we're talking groups they're probably in my top 3. I gotta put OutKast over them just my opinion. I think NWA goes #1 I mean Dr Dre, Ice Cube and Eazy E between the 3 of them that's a huge influence to this day. Don't get me wrong the Beastie Boys sold the shit outta records, kept their signature sound while constantly experimenting with new styles but all art is subjective just depends who you ask. I think Andre 3000 is the best individual rapper. Who disagrees?

I think the thing to remember about any subculture is that it's always symbiotic, RUN-DMC wouldn't have been as good as they were without the Beastie Boys, Visa Verca. King of Rock itself has huge rock and punk influences that I don't think would have been as prominent if Beastie Boys weren't also doing what they had been doing. Equally RUN-DMC had an iconic sound that the Beastie boys massively borrowed from as stated in the video.

Oddly enough, you says RIP to Phife dog and Easy E but you don’t say RIP to Yauch when announcing each groups members. And the inconsistencies between this and your last video are so incredibly apparent, you can tell this was done to save face amongst the community.

My guy! Well said, amazingly argued, and precisely correct. I see no flaws in your argument my friend, and you just earned my utmost respect.

They Jews! Do they get a minority but white pass? Agree with Run DMC.